Jared Crozier: Hoffman's Pair Leads Sens To OT Win in Montreal

Crazy not to give Chabot his 10 games. Kid has unbelievable wheels. He is a keeper.

Hoffman showed precisely why Ottawa needs him in the line up.....that bar down shot with Condon on the top of the crease, square and ready was a thing of beauty

If Boro isn't punching someone's face or running them threw the boards he's pretty much ineffective. Yes he has a ton of heart, but he's easily replaceable.

I was impressed with Seidenbergs play for team Europe. Pick him up PD!! Put Boro on waivers or keep as 7th Dman.

Hoffman could have a career year at age 26. 40G

If Boro isn't punching someone's face or running them threw the boards he's pretty much ineffective. Yes he has a ton of heart, but he's easily replaceable.

I was impressed with Seidenbergs play for team Europe. Pick him up PD!! Put Boro on waivers or keep as 7th Dman.

Hoffman could have a career year at age 26. 40G
- Erik6Karlsson5

Got signed by the Islanders the other day. Apparently Ottawa wanted a longer look before committing to the giant contract of 1 year 1 million...

Got signed by the Islanders the other day. Apparently Ottawa wanted a longer look before committing to the giant contract of 1 year 1 million...
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Why did Murray give Boro a 3 year 1 way deal again?

Why did Murray give Boro a 3 year 1 way deal again?
- Erik6Karlsson5

Because the organization is a gong show. Decisions are made as either PR moves that often waste money, or to save money. Boro contract is in the former category.

We just lost our chief amateur scout, when we already have one of the smallest scouting departments in the league. This is concerning to me. I'm not sure if it was an upwards move for Bob Lowes, which makes it slightly more acceptable, but if it was due to money then that's unacceptable (when Eugene already penny pinches that department). We're going to become one of those teams that just drafts based on ISS rankings with a complete inability to draft beyond the first round, just like the Leafs and Oilers, if this keeps up. C'mon Melnyk, Sell Our Sens

Because the organization is a gong show. Decisions are made as either PR moves that often waste money, or to save money. Boro contract is in the former category.

We just lost our chief amateur scout, when we already have one of the smallest scouting departments in the league. This is concerning to me. I'm not sure if it was an upwards move for Bob Lowes, which makes it slightly more acceptable, but if it was due to money then that's unacceptable (when Eugene already penny pinches that department). We're going to become one of those teams that just drafts based on ISS rankings with a complete inability to draft beyond the first round, just like the Leafs and Oilers, if this keeps up. C'mon Melnyk, Sell Our Sens
- AStew86

Was Chief Amateur Scout with the Senators, is now the Assistant Director of Player Personnel with LV. Yes, that's a significant upwards move.

Because the organization is a gong show. Decisions are made as either PR moves that often waste money, or to save money. Boro contract is in the former category.

We just lost our chief amateur scout, when we already have one of the smallest scouting departments in the league. This is concerning to me. I'm not sure if it was an upwards move for Bob Lowes, which makes it slightly more acceptable, but if it was due to money then that's unacceptable (when Eugene already penny pinches that department). We're going to become one of those teams that just drafts based on ISS rankings with a complete inability to draft beyond the first round, just like the Leafs and Oilers, if this keeps up. C'mon Melnyk, Sell Our Sens
- AStew86

This is just plain wrong. Boro wasn't any sort of risky move considering he's making close to the league minimum, they took a risk and it hasn't exactly blown up in their face. Look at contracts to Turris, Karlsson, Stone, Ceci, Smith, Anderson, Methot, Hoffman. All of those are reasonable contracts that the current or previous (Murray) GM orchestrated.

Ottawa has had pretty good draft record but no means is it sparkling. If Bob Lowes left for more money, so be it. Why should Ottawa always be the top-spender on every contract like so many people seem to think? It's just not good business. And where did you find the information on how many scouts Ottawa has employed? I'd be curious to see it. They've spent money to keep homegrown skill, what more does everyone want?

I know it was spun as a positive, but having only ONE player in the world cup really demonstrates Ottawa's lack of top-end skill in the system. It is a real problem and without finishing in the top-5 for a couple years I don't know how it would be solved. If you look at every single Cup winner, they had key years where they drafted top of the draft in order to rebuild this team. This fact has nothing to do with money.

Got signed by the Islanders the other day. Apparently Ottawa wanted a longer look before committing to the giant contract of 1 year 1 million...
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Maybe they felt like Seidenberg wouldn't be an upgrade over the players they anticipate having in their top 6?

Don't get me wrong, he's definitely better than Borowiecki, but I also don't think that Borowiecki is in the top 6. I figure that Chabot is dressed and paired with Wideman on opening night, and that they sign Bartkowski, and they end up carrying 8 defenders. Borowiecki is #8, and between him and Bartkowski, they play a total of 20 games, not adjusted for injuries, which would obviously cause those numbers to jump.

At this point in their careers, with the NHL being what it is today, I'd much rather have a third pair with Chabot/Wideman over anything featuring Seidenberg. I'm not convinced that the errors that Chabot will make are going to be significantly more plentiful than the ones Seidenberg will make, and Chabot has much more speed and offensive upside.

No insider knowledge at all here, but if they were bringing Seidenberg in, I doubt he would have been an everyday player. Has nothing to do with the Senators budget. We can all see that $1mm over a single season is well within that budget. Let's just be honest about it, he wouldn't have been in Ottawa's top 6 group.

This is just plain wrong. Boro wasn't any sort of risky move considering he's making close to the league minimum, they took a risk and it hasn't exactly blown up in their face. Look at contracts to Turris, Karlsson, Stone, Ceci, Smith, Anderson, Methot, Hoffman. All of those are reasonable contracts that the current or previous (Murray) GM orchestrated.

Ottawa has had pretty good draft record but no means is it sparkling. If Bob Lowes left for more money, so be it. Why should Ottawa always be the top-spender on every contract like so many people seem to think? It's just not good business. And where did you find the information on how many scouts Ottawa has employed? I'd be curious to see it. They've spent money to keep homegrown skill, what more does everyone want?

I know it was spun as a positive, but having only ONE player in the world cup really demonstrates Ottawa's lack of top-end skill in the system. It is a real problem and without finishing in the top-5 for a couple years I don't know how it would be solved. If you look at every single Cup winner, they had key years where they drafted top of the draft in order to rebuild this team. This fact has nothing to do with money.
- scoremoregoals

I'll admit my post was gloomy, maybe excessively, but it's not totally baseless. Travis Yost compared the size of scouting departments after Eugene boasted that he spends a lot on ours and Yost found it to be quite lacking in quantity compared to the vast majority of other teams. We obviously do have quality as I think we're one of the better late round drafting teams in the league (mediocre in first round save for the Karlsson pick), but losing our quality to Buffalo, Las Vegas etc is a blow. Thanks for the info Terror ... that is a big step up for Bob Lowes and kudos to him.

You're right that Ottawa has great contracts but with so little wiggle room given a strict budget, 1.1 million for 3 years (and a roster spot) can't be spent on a guy who never showed an ability to play in the NHL. Both Cowen and Greening had shown promise at one point, got contracts based on those flashes of potential, but couldn't continue to live up to them. The Boro contract, meanwhile, was a PR move for a local kid with truculence. It made absolutely no sense at the time and still doesn't.

And where is Ottawa a top spender? Further, they never bottomed out because they didn't rebuild properly. The one year we had a chance at a high pick we went and got Anderson for a last ditch effort at the playoffs, which failed, yet propelled us out of lottery (read: Landeskog) territory. We've had a 'three year window' for 8 years now with one playoff series win and an average-ish prospect pool to show for it. The PR spins, penny pinching, and mismanagement are getting tiresome.